“And the nations were angry, and thy wrath [of ‘The Lord God Almighty’] is come...(Rev 11:18)”
"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of His fierce anger. (Isa 13: 9-13)"
Some say the shortening of those days is for the the sake of the Christians who are alive on earth during Satan's portion of the Great Tribulation (which is most of the 7 years). But that makes no sense to me.. Why? Because THE SAINTS WILL ALREADY have been RAPTURED (at the first sound of the 7th Trump)! This also is the time when Satan's wrath ends and when God locks him up in Hell for 1000 years.
This also is the time when God's wrath takes over, upon Babylon and all the world. God’s wrath takes place after the Rapture/Resurrection. Again, Jesus said "those days shall be shortened", otherwise "no flesh should be saved":
- Non-Christian Israelites who, at some point, will be born again (from each of the tribes: "all Israel shall be saved" Rom 11:26)*
- Born again Christian Israelites (from each of the tribes).
- All Gentiles who accept Jesus Christ as Savior (thus adopted into Israel)
The eternal lake of fire is not reserved for God’s elect:
- *“For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me (Isa 45:4-5)”
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NOTES: At this point in the dialog a friend commented. He quoted The English Standard Version (ESV):
"...the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then WE who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the AIR, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words (1 Thes 4:13–18)"... “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. “And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. “And He will send forth His angels with a GREAT TRUMPET and they will gather together His ELECT from the four winds, from one end of the SKY to the other. (Matt 24: 29-31)
He pointed out to me that the "WE" mentioned here "is clearly speaking of BELIEVERS in Jesus Christ being raptured." "In other words," he says, "the ELECT in Matthew is referring to the CHURCH. He did not believe the "ELECT" in Matthew is referring to Israel."
To clarify: I do think Israel (all 12 tribes) PLUS all born-again Christians make up God's "elect." See my explanation below. I don't believe that all of these elect will necessarily be resurrected/raptured at the 7th trump. Some will be left-out of the Rapture and the 1000 year Millennium, in my view. Also: If all of the elect are raptured "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump" then why would the time afterward need to be cut short? At this point God's Hour of Wrath is beginning. If the rapture is the cutting-short-moment then why do all of the scriptures pertaining to God's wrath (Rev Chapters 15-18) keep happening?
So I agree that the Church is "the elect." But I also say that Israel is "the elect." How can this be? The answer is found in Revelation 21: 9-14:
It suffices to say: In the marriage of the Lamb of God, The Church AND all 12 tribes of Israel ARE ONE.... THE BRIDE OF CHRIST! I see that the "elect" of Matt 24 includes Israel (as well as all born again Christians...alive & dead).
Whether or not the "elect (of Matthew 24)" includes both pre-rapture-saved-Israelites & post-rapture-saved-Israelites (which includes all Gentile Christians who are adopted into Israel) is an important question. However, the main point of the article is to show the changing of dispensations between the time-of-Satan's-wrath & the-time-of-God's-wrath. The end of Satan's portion of The Great Tribulation ends “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump.” Why then would anything, that is scheduled to occur before this moment, need to be cut short? If God cut anything out, up to this point, there would be no resurrection/rapture! Because God would have cut off the Tribulation early, without the 7th Trump. We need to go back to this main article (above: Last Day Wrath of Satan vs. Last Day Wrath of God) and see that Satan’s wrath ends and God’s wrath begins with the, beginning of the sounding of, the 7th trump.
Prior to the beginning of the sounding of the 7th trump, God will have not yet poured out His wrath.
This is a good place to stop and read Revelation Chapters 15, 16, 17, and 18. It is important that the reader has a good understanding of the extensive punishments that God has proposed upon all of the inhabitants of the earth **to take place after Satan's portion of the seven years! Then it will make more sense to us when we come to understand that:
These are the chapters (Rev. Chapters 15-18) explaining God’s wrath. All of it happens after the beginning of the sounding 7th Trump. So I suppose we could say “The Great Tribulation consists of Satan’s wrath of 2300 days (Dan 8:14) plus God’s wrath of “one hour” So when God decides to shorten the “days” it could be called:
This period appears to be happening during the sounding of the trumpet! So “the days of the voice of the seventh angel” is, again, another title for the period of God’s wrath:
So the prophecies teach us: This mystery of God reaches its finish over a period of “DAYS.” These “days” include:
All this takes place and is fulfilled while the 7th angel is still sounding. Remember that during the end of the sounding: "for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
The scattering and gathering of "His elect from [and to] the four winds" is what God is doing with Israel. This has been the case from the beginning. See here what God promises to all 12 tribes.. even the dead:
****“For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me (Isa 45:4-5)”
And when does God's gathering of Israel (His elect) begin?
And when does it end?
With the sounding of the 7thTrump: